Cris Cohen: What direction did you get from Phil Collen of Def Leppard?
Troy Luccketta of Tesla: Phil came in to produce the "Shock" record. We were excited about that. And we were going to really be a hands-off band. Let him make the record he wanted to make. The first thing he told me was, "I want to be able to air drum the record." So in other words, nothing fancy. Don't give me these freakin' paradiddles and all this cool jazz stuff you play. We sat down and listened to the tracks and we discussed. And three and a half days later we had the drum stuff. And I hadn't played (to) any of the tracks until I actually recorded them. Because I didn't want those preconceived ideas about what I was going to do or thought I should do. I wanted to work with him.